Scientists in general don't believe in god yet they are clamoring to find the god-particle as if their livelihood and reputations depend on it. And for some it does. But finding the god-particle would be equivalent to finding god; well, finding god might be easier, go to any church, synagogue or mosque where people find such invisible non-existent deities all day long, and don't need proof.
Looks like that is what desperate to justify spending billions of dollars looking for non-existent god-particles scientists are doing, finding things and not having to prove them to anyone. Heck, clergy have been making a good living that way for eons why not scientists.
UFO nuts can't prove anything either and because of that they make up much of the laughing stock in the world for the unwashed masses to poke fun at. But who is laughing at the unwashed masses, while making a darn good living off of them?
Lou
http://news.yahoo.com/apnewsbreak-proof-god-particle-found-131226045.html
GENEVA (AP) — Scientists
working at the world's biggest atom smasher plan to announce Wednesday that
they have gathered enough evidence to show that the long-sought "God particle" answering
fundamental questions about the universe almost certainly does exist.
But after decades of work and billions of
dollars spent, researchers at the European Organization for Nuclear Research, or
CERN, aren't quite ready to say they've "discovered" the particle.
Instead, experts familiar with the research
at CERN's vast complex on the Swiss-French border say that the massive data they
have obtained will essentially show the footprint of the key particle known as
the Higgs boson — all but proving it exists — but doesn't allow them to say it
has actually been glimpsed.
It appears to be a fine distinction.
Senior CERN scientists say that the two
independent teams of physicists who plan to present their work at CERN's vast
complex on the Swiss-French border on July 4 are about as close as you can get
to a discovery without actually calling it one.
"I agree that any reasonable outside
observer would say, 'It looks like a discovery,'" British theoretical physicist
John Ellis, a
professor at King's College London who has worked at CERN since the 1970s, told
The Associated Press. "We've discovered something which is consistent with being
a Higgs."
CERN's atom smasher, the $10 billion Large
Hadron Collider, has been creating high-energy collisions of protons to help
them understand suspected phenomena such as dark matter, antimatter and
ultimately the creation of the universe billions of years ago, which many
theorize occurred as a massive explosion known as the Big Bang.
For particle physicists, finding the Higgs
boson is a key to confirming the standard model of physics that explains what
gives mass to matter and, by extension, how the universe was formed. Each of the
two teams known as ATLAS and CMS involve thousands of people
working independently from one another, to ensure accuracy.
Rob Roser, who leads the search for the
Higgs boson at the Fermilab in Chicago, said: "Particle physicists have a very
high standard for what it takes to be a discovery," and he thinks it is a hair's
breadth away.
Rosen compared the results that scientists
are preparing to announce Wednesday to finding the fossilized imprint of a
dinosaur: "You see the footprints and the shadow of the object, but you don't
actually see it."
Though an impenetrable concept to many, the Higgs boson has until now been just that — a concept intended to explain a riddle: How were the subatomic particles, such as electrons, protons and neutrons, themselves formed? What gives them their mass?
The answer came in a theory first proposed
by physicist Peter
Higgs and others in the 1960s. It envisioned an energy field where
particles interact with a key particle, the Higgs boson.
The idea is that other particles attract Higgs bosons and the more they attract, the bigger their mass will be. Some liken the effect to a ubiquitous Higgs snowfield that affects other particles traveling through it depending on whether they are wearing, metaphorically speaking, skis, snowshoes or just shoes.
Officially, CERN is presenting its evidence at a physics conference in Australia this week, but plans to accompany the announcement with meetings in Geneva. The two teams, ATLAS and CMS, then plan to publicly unveil more data on the Higgs boson at physics meetings in October and December.
Scientists with access to the new CERN data
say it shows with a high degree of certainty that the Higgs boson may already
have been glimpsed, and that by unofficially combining the separate results from
ATLAS and CMS it can be argued that a discovery is near at hand. Ellis says at
least one physicist-blogger has done just that in a credible way.
CERN spokesman James Gillies said Monday,
however, that he would be "very cautious" about unofficial combinations of ATLAS
and CMS data. "Combining the data from two experiments is a complex task, which
is why it takes time, and why no combination will be presented on Wednesday," he
told AP.
But if the calculations are indeed correct,
said John Guinon, a longtime physics professor at the University of California
at Davis and author of the book "The Higgs Hunter's Guide," then it is fair to
say that "in some sense we have reached the mountaintop."
Sean M. Carroll, a California Institute of
Technology physicist flying to Geneva for the July 4th announcement, said that
if both ATLAS and CMS have independently reached these high thresholds on the
Higgs boson, then "only the most curmudgeonly will not believe that they have
found it."
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When people find themselves in a conflicting situation `their minds rationalize it by inventing a comfortable solution If the solution is comfortable but somehow violates another rule instead of tossing the comfortable solution they will
ReplyDeleteappropriate more money to make the comfortable
solution work. Ad infinitum.
As far as CERN is concerned the neutrinos could not have exceeded the speed of light therefore it must have been an error In the wiring.
In the case of the Higgs boson findings, John Guinon a longtime physics professor at the University of California at Davis and author of the book "The Higgs Hunter's Guide," said, “if the calculations are indeed correct then it is fair to say that "in some sense we have reached the mountaintop."
To which I would like to add, “It may not be the mountain we were initially climbing but it was, in fact, a mountaintop". But that is beside the point.
We know there was a big bang; we just have to find the evidence that proves it whether or not we like it.
I don't suppose the 4th of July has anything to do with them announcing that the Big Bang happened because they found footprints of god and his or her particle do you? The 4th is a big bang day in America, and Americans will get their bang no matter what. Not as if most people give a rat's butt about god particles or Big Bangs other than firecrackers.
ReplyDeleteBig foot is real and people have found footprints but no big foot. There is no god-particle foot prints and no god-particle. But who cares really. There is ice cold watermelon in the frig, and I'm going after some right now.
LOL @ Lou and his watermelon, I want some.
ReplyDeleteEven the name of that show The big bang theory annoys me.
Lou, another book please? :D :D :D :D :D
Hello Kai,
ReplyDeleteMy next book, "The year of the dragon, UFOs and me"
might be out in a few weeks.
Thanks Lou!!! I'm very excited and eagerly waiting then!
ReplyDeletesweeeeeeeeeeeeet!! can't wait to read it.
ReplyDeleteHi Lou, great to hear another book is on his way, I really can’t get enough of it.
ReplyDeleteAs I said on your facebook wall I have read Orphans of Aquarius and because of your really very good and pleasant writing style I was hooked to it [as to all your books] from the beginning to the end and had read it out in no time.
I just read for the such-and-such time A Day With An Extraterrestrial” again and right after that “In League With A UFO” again and I am now reading “An Italian Family, Capisce?” for the first time.
It’s like being constant moving in and out the rabbit hole.
Since a 'hint' of a Higgs Boson can be no more than an ambiguous suggestion of the physical possibility of it, then this uncertainty must also be the hint of something else as of yet unconceptualised.
ReplyDeleteThe Big bang didn't 'bang' because of course, there was no atmosphere for sound waves to propogate through. Not even a whimper.